Journals of the Senate
2nd Session, 41st Parliament
Issue 16
Wednesday, November 20, 2013
1:30 p.m.
The Honourable Noël A. Kinsella, Speaker
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
Andreychuk, Ataullahjan, Baker, Bellemare, Beyak, Black, Boisvenu, Buth, Callbeck, Campbell, Carignan, Chaput, Charette-Poulin, Comeau, Cools, Cordy, Dagenais, Dallaire, Dawson, Day, Demers, Doyle, Dyck, Eaton, Eggleton, Enverga, Fortin-Duplessis, Fraser, Frum, Furey, Gerstein, Greene, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Johnson, Joyal, Kinsella, Lang, LeBreton, Lovelace Nicholas, MacDonald, Maltais, Manning, Marshall, Martin, Massicotte, McCoy, McInnis, McIntyre, Mercer, Merchant, Meredith, Mitchell, Mockler, Moore, Munson, Nancy Ruth, Neufeld, Ngo, Nolin, Oh, Patterson, Plett, Poirier, Raine, Ringuette, Rivard, Robichaud, Runciman, Seidman, Seth, Sibbeston, Smith (Cobourg), Stewart Olsen, Tannas, Tardif, Tkachuk, Unger, Verner, Wallace, Wells
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
Andreychuk, Ataullahjan, Baker, Bellemare, Beyak, Black, Boisvenu, Buth, Callbeck, Campbell, Carignan, *Champagne, Chaput, Charette-Poulin, Comeau, Cools, Cordy, *Cowan, Dagenais, Dallaire, Dawson, Day, Demers, *Downe, Doyle, Dyck, Eaton, Eggleton, Enverga, Fortin-Duplessis, Fraser, Frum, Furey, Gerstein, Greene, Hervieux-Payette, *Housakos, Hubley, Johnson, Joyal, Kinsella, Lang, LeBreton, Lovelace Nicholas, MacDonald, Maltais, Manning, Marshall, Martin, Massicotte, McCoy, McInnis, McIntyre, Mercer, Merchant, Meredith, Mitchell, Mockler, Moore, Munson, Nancy Ruth, Neufeld, Ngo, Nolin, Oh, Patterson, Plett, Poirier, Raine, Ringuette, Rivard, Robichaud, Runciman, Seidman, Seth, Sibbeston, Smith (Cobourg), Stewart Olsen, Tannas, Tardif, Tkachuk, Unger, Verner, Wallace, Wells
The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.
An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.
PRAYERS
SENATORS' STATEMENTS
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Presenting or Tabling of Reports from Committees
The Honourable Senator Neufeld tabled the following (Sessional Paper No. 2/41-211S):
Wednesday, November 20, 2013
The Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources has the honour to table its
FIRST REPORT
Your committee, which was authorized by the Senate to incur expenses for the purpose of its examination and consideration of such matters as were referred to it, tables, pursuant to rule 12-26(2), the following report on expenses incurred for that purpose during the First Session of the Forty-first Parliament:
1. With respect to its examination and consideration of legislation:
2012-2013 General Expenses $ 0 Witness expenses 7,420 SUBTOTAL $ 7,420 TOTAL $ 7,420
2. With respect to its special study on the current state and future of Canada's energy sector (including alternative energy), authorized by the Senate on Thursday, June 16, 2011:
2011-2012 General expenses $ 14,986 Activity 1: Alta. and B.C. 80,863 Activity 2: Man. and Sask. 69,586 Activity 3: Washington 0 Activity 4: Quebec (Emergency Funds) 0 Witness expenses 11,821 SUBTOTAL $ 177,256 2012-2013 General Expenses $ 62,230 Activity 1: Quebec 0 Activity 2: Calgary 0 Activity 3: Calgary 0 Witness expenses 7,011 SUBTOTAL $ 69,241 TOTAL $ 246,497
3. With respect to its special study on the current state of the safety elements of the bulk transport of hydrocarbon products in Canada, authorized by the Senate on Wednesday, November 28, 2012:
2012-2013 General Expenses $ 766 Activity 1: Hamilton and Sarnia 8,888 Activity 2: Calgary 28,526 Witness expenses 2,787 SUBTOTAL $ 40,967 2013-2014 General Expenses $ 11,987 Activity 1 of 2012-2013, Hamilton and Sarnia (unused airfare credit) 729 Activity 2 of 2012-2013, Calgary (unused airfare credit) 3,787 Activity 1: Saint John, N.B. and Halifax, N.S. 31,628 Activity 2: B.C. and U.S.A. (Seattle, Wash. and Valdez, AK) 46, 203 Witness expenses 5,550 SUBTOTAL $ 99,884 TOTAL $ 140,851
In addition to the expenses for its studies as set out above, your committee also incurred general postal charges of $12.
During the session, your committee held 82 meetings (153.5 hours), heard 265 witnesses and submitted 12 reports in relation to its work. Your Committee examined 3 bills (S-15, C-47 and C-370), and received a total of 9 orders of reference.
Respectfully submitted,
RICHARD NEUFELD
Chair
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The Honourable Senator Manning tabled the following (Sessional Paper No. 2/41-212S):
Wednesday, November 20, 2013
The Standing Senate Committee on Fisheries and Oceans has the honour to table its
FIRST REPORT
Your committee, which was authorized by the Senate to incur expenses for the purpose of its examination and consideration of such matters as were referred to it, tables, pursuant to rule 12-26(2), the following report on expenses incurred for that purpose during the First Session of the Forty-first Parliament:
1. With respect to its examination and consideration of legislation:
2013-2014 Witness Expenses $ 1,333 SUBTOTAL $ 1,333 TOTAL $ 1,333
2. With respect to its special study on the evolving policy framework for managing Canada's fisheries and oceans authorized by the Senate on Sunday, June 26, 2011:
2011-2012 General Expenses $ 0 Activity 1: Magdalen Islands, QC and Southwest Coast of Newfoundland 0 Witness Expenses 0 SUBTOTAL $ 0 TOTAL $ 0
3. With respect to its special study on the management of the grey seal population off Canada's East Coast authorized by the Senate on Thursday, October 20, 2011:
2011-2012 General Expenses $ 0 Activity 1: Halifax, NS 43,167 Witness Expenses 19,704 SUBTOTAL $ 62,871 2012-2013 Witness Expenses $ 1,155 SUBTOTAL $ 1,155 TOTAL $ 64,026
4. With respect to its special study on the lobster fishery in Atlantic Canada and Quebec authorized by the Senate on Thursday, March 8, 2012:
2012-2013 General Expenses $ 0 Activity 1: Moncton, NB 41,759 Witness Expenses 6,534 SUBTOTAL $ 48,293 TOTAL $ 48,293
5. With respect to its special study on the regulation of aquaculture in Canada and future prospects for the industry authorized by the Senate on Tuesday, March 5, 2013:
2013-2014 General Expenses $ 0 Activity 1: Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia 0 Witness Expenses 0 SUBTOTAL $ 0 TOTAL $ 0
In addition to the expenses for its studies as set out above, your committee also incurred general postal charges of $ 13.
During the session, your committee held 45 meetings (76.1 hours), heard 118 witnesses and submitted 10 reports in relation to its work. Your Committee examined 1 bill (S-13) and received a total of 8 orders of reference.
Respectfully submitted,
FABIAN MANNING
Chair
The Honourable Senator Marshall presented the following:
Wednesday, November 20, 2013
The Committee of Selection has the honour to present its
THIRD REPORT
Your committee wishes to inform the Senate that it nominates the Honourable Senator Nolin as Speaker pro tempore.
Respectfully submitted,
ELIZABETH MARSHALL
Chair
With leave of the Senate
The Honourable Senator Marshall moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Poirier, that the report be adopted now.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
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The Honourable Senator Mockler tabled the following (Sessional Paper No. 2/41-213S):
Wednesday, November 20, 2013
The Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry has the honour to table its
FIRST REPORT
Your committee, which was authorized by the Senate to incur expenses for the purpose of its examination and consideration of such matters as were referred to it, tables, pursuant to rule 12-26(2), the following report on expenses incurred for that purpose during the First Session of the Forty-first Parliament:
1. With respect to its examination and consideration of legislation:
2011-2012 General Expenses $ 0 Witness expenses 35,552 SUBTOTAL $ 35,552 2012-2013 General Expenses $ 0 Witness expenses 16,041 SUBTOTAL $ 16,041 TOTAL $ 51,594
2. With respect to its special study on Research and innovation efforts in the agricultural sector authorized by the Senate on Thursday, June 16, 2011:
2011-2012 General Expenses $ 0 Activity 1: Eastern Canada 0 Activity 1: Ontario 0 Activity 2: Americas 46,049 *Activity 1: New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island 0 *Activity 2: Quebec 6,074 Witness expenses 23,095 SUBTOTAL $ 75,218 *Supplementary Budget 2012-2013 General Expenses $ 0 Activity 1: Eastern Canada 29,832 Activity 2: Western Canada 42,728 *Activity 1: St. John's Newfoundland & Labrador 22,153 Witness expenses 32,384 SUBTOTAL $ 127,097 *Supplementary Budget 2013-2014 General Expenses $ 0 Activity 1 of 2012-2013, Eastern Canada (unused airfare credit) 434 Activity 2 of 2012-2013, St. John's Newfoundland and Labrador (unused airfare credit) 4,225 Activity 1: British Columbia 26,685 Activity 2: Ontario 0 Witness expenses 11,190 SUBTOTAL $ 42,534 TOTAL $ 244,849
During the session, your committee held 74 meetings (132 hours, 39 minutes), heard 259 witnesses and submitted 11 reports in relation to its work. Your Committee examined 2 bills (S-11 and C-18) and received a total of 7 orders of reference.
Respectfully submitted,
PERCY MOCKLER
Chair
Introduction and First Reading of Senate Public Bills
The Honourable Senator Ringuette introduced a Bill S-210, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal interest rate).
The bill was read the first time.
The Honourable Senator Ringuette moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Massicotte, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading two days hence.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Tabling of Reports from Inter-Parliamentary Delegations
The Honourable Senator Johnson tabled the following:
Report of the Canadian Delegation of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group respecting its participation at the 2013 annual meeting of the Western Governors' Association, held in Park City, Utah, United States of America, from June 28 to 30, 2013.—Sessional Paper No. 2/41-214.
Report of the Canadian Delegation of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group respecting its participation at the 68th Annual Meeting of the Council of States Governments Midwestern Legislative Conference, held in St. Paul, Minnesota, United States of America, from July 14 to 17, 2013.—Sessional Paper No. 2/41-215.
Report of the Canadian Delegation of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group respecting its participation at the 2013 annual meeting of the National Governors Association, held in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States of America, from August 1 to 4, 2013.—Sessional Paper No. 2/41-216.
Report of the Canadian Delegation of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group respecting its participation at the annual legislative summit of the National Conference of State Legislatures, held in Atlanta, Georgia, United States of America, from August 12 to 15, 2013.—Sessional Paper No. 2/41-217.
ORDERS OF THE DAY
GOVERNMENT BUSINESS
Bills — Second Reading
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Manning, seconded by the Honourable Senator Neufeld, for the second reading of Bill S-3, An Act to amend the Coastal Fisheries Protection Act.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The bill was then read the second time.
The Honourable Senator Manning moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Raine, that the bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Fisheries and Oceans.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
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Orders No. 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Motions
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Senate Public Bills—Second Reading
Orders No. 1 to 9 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Commons Public Bills — Second Reading
Orders No. 1 to 8 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
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Second reading of Bill C-394, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the National Defence Act (criminal organization recruitment).
The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall, that the bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
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Order No. 10 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Reports of Committees — Other
Consideration of the first report of the Standing Joint Committee for the Scrutiny of Regulations (permanent order of reference and expenses re rule 12-26), presented in the Senate on November 7, 2013.
The Honourable Senator Runciman moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Greene, that the report be adopted.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Motions
Order No. 5 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Inquiries
Order No. 4 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
MOTIONS
The Honourable Senator Martin, for the Honourable Senator Andreychuk, moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall:
That the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, in accordance with rule 12-7(4), be authorized to examine such issues as may arise from time to time relating to foreign relations and international trade generally; and
That the committee report to the Senate no later than June 30, 2014.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Fraser moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Hubley, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
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The Honourable Senator Martin, for the Honourable Senator Andreychuk, moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall:
That, the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade be authorized to examine and report on security conditions and economic developments in the Asia-Pacific region, the implications for Canadian policy and interests in the region, and other related matters;
That the papers and evidence received and taken and work accomplished by the committee on this subject during the First session of the Forty-first Parliament be referred to the committee; and
That the committee report to the Senate no later than June 30, 2014.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Fraser moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Hubley, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
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The Honourable Senator Martin, for the Honourable Senator Andreychuk, moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Plett:
That the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade be authorized to examine and report on economic and political developments in the Republic of Turkey, their regional and global influences, the implications for Canadian interests and opportunities, and other related matters;
That the papers and evidence received and taken and work accomplished by the committee on this subject during the First session of the Forty-first Parliament be referred to the committee; and
That the committee report to the Senate no later than December 31, 2013.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Fortin-Duplessis moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
ADJOURNMENT
The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 3:03 p.m. the Senate was continued until tomorrow at 1:30 p.m.)
Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5
Standing Senate Committee on Fisheries and Oceans
The Honourable Senator Wells replaced the Honourable Senator Martin (November 19, 2013).
Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade
The Honourable Senator Tannas replaced the Honourable Senator Housakos (November 20, 2013).
Standing Senate Committee on National Finance
The Honourable Senator Smith (Saurel) replaced the Honourable Senator Demers (November 19, 2013).
The Honourable Senator Seth replaced the Honourable Senator Beyak (November 19, 2013).
Committee of Selection
The Honourable Senator Martin replaced the Honourable Senator Housakos (November 19, 2013).
Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications
The Honourable Senator Lang replaced the Honourable Senator Housakos (November 20, 2013).